Debating online or face to face


Greta Christina wrote recently about online anonymity and its pros and cons in discussion. I find when reading her posts I often feel compelled to comment at length and in this case the length was sufficient to justify an entire blog post.

The thrust of her argument is that although online anonymity is a mixed blessing, it is still a blessing.

The fact that people feel less bound by social convention online than they do in person doesn’t just give them license to be rude where they would otherwise feel pressured to be polite. It also gives them license to tell the truth as they see it, where they would otherwise feel pressured to go along with socially acceptable lies — or stay silent in the face of them.

I agree with her on this. So why am I writing? “Greta Christina thinks anonymous onliDebating Chamber of the former House of Deputies of Austria, in Vienna.ne discussion is a good thing” is hardly news. However, I do have a few things to add.

There are more benefits to online discussions. I think the quality of my debate is far higher online than face to face. Debating in person is not something I feel particularly good at, although I am trying to improve through practice. Usually, I find my memory lacking, my temperature rising and I often get nervous in the face of confrontation. Even if the topic isn’t inherently emotive I have an emotional reaction, which doesn’t help me get my point across. Plus it’s embarrassing and frustrating!

However, online both parties have more time to cool off and digest what the other person has said and make their own points as precisely as possible. There’s less temptation to blurt out the first thing which comes into your head, which may not be what you’d really like to say. That’s in an ideal world. On the flip side it can turn into a cut-and-paste war of quotes and links where no one really thinks for themselves. Debating online also doeAngry and frustrated personsn’t stop people from typing in the first thing which comes into their heads or from responding emotionally or ignoring their opponent’s points – but I do think it makes it easier to be a good debater – if you’re willing to take the time and effort.

On numerous occasions I’ve found myself feeling like I’m losing a face-to-face debate despite the poor quality of my opponent’s arguments. Only hours later do I realise what I should’ve said. I’m sure I’m not the only one who has experienced this. It’s extremely frustrating. Anyone who’s got into a conversation with a barrister (courtroom lawyer) will know what I mean. They’re quick-witted, persuasive and good at talking. Some of them however, seem unable to get out of the competitive mindset. There’s definitely something fishy about their arguments, but you can’t quite marshal your own arguments fast enough to catch them out. Their aim is not to find out what’s true, but to convince a jury (whether real or imagined) of what’s true. It’s not investigation, it’s marketing.Debating in person

Part of what I do for this blog is face to face debates with people, so I’d like to improve the way I debate in person. I sometimes wish I could take some of those wit-powered debates online – asking them to “step online” (rather than “step outside”!). Obviously this isn’t always practical.

So failing that I try to research the topics which interest me online beforehand then avoid getting into any debates for which I haven’t already considered the arguments and counter-arguments. That might sound like cheating, but for now I think it’s better than getting angry, upset and frustrated.

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3 Comments

  1. Comment by yunshui on 18 July, 2008 14:53


    The flipside, of course, is that if you happen to be really good at face-to-face debating, the internet argument is much more difficult. Even the most dense apologist can cut-and-paste William Lane Craig articles (okay, not a great example, but he’s a higher calibre theologian than most of us usually deal with) and appear to be the very soul of intense philosophical enquiry. Thus, unthinking moon-calves who would usually be intellectually steamrollered in moments can provide a modicum of real opposition.

    I suppose the in-print debate is not really novel, though. Ever since the invention of the printing press philosophers and scientists have argued back-and-forth in great diatribes of text. The difference now is that any muppet with a laptop and a phone line can insert their two cents into an online dialogue, which in some ways weakens the quality of debate, but more importantly increases one’s exposure to ideas. That, to my mind, can only be a good thing, and if the cloak of anonymity is required in order for people to expess themselves, then I’m all for it.

  2. Comment by Matt M on 18 July, 2008 16:36


    Only hours later do I realise what I should’ve said.

    Happens to me all the time. Annoying, isn’t it?

    One of the main benefits I’ve found with online debates is that you can take time to consider your response. Normally I’ll read someone’s comment, go away and think about it for a while, and then reply. Not only does this allow me to develop my thoughts to a more coherent level, it also makes the debate less emotional, as you’re less caught up in it. Also, it allows me to phrase my comments in a non-hostile way. Offline, I tend to get a bit frustrated that I can’t articulate my position well enough to convince the other person and so end up losing my train of thought even more. I also worry that I may offend the other person by being too dismissive or aggressive and so check myself or try to backtrack when I feel I might have gone too far.

    The anonymity that often attends online debates is both a blessing and a curse in my opinion – whilst encouraging a more open debate it can lead to people forgetting that there’s a real human being, with feelings, behind the text.

  3. Comment by Eshu on 21 July, 2008 07:44


    Matt M,

    it can lead to people forgetting that there’s a real human being, with feelings, behind the text.

    Yes that’s a good warning to keep in mind. I often debate with people I know personally, so I don’t actually want to offend them – I also think it is unhelpful if you’re trying to convince someone of something to offend them. The brain can switch off and the emotions get involved.

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