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		<title>By: Eshu</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2009/12/review-the-case-for-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorena, I forgot to say that it&#039;s interesting that the book didn&#039;t stop your doubts. I wonder how many people are persuaded by Strobel&#039;s book. Perhaps if they&#039;re reading the book, then they&#039;re already asking questions, which for some may be the biggest step. I&#039;m speculating again, I&#039;ll stop now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorena, I forgot to say that it&#8217;s interesting that the book didn&#8217;t stop your doubts. I wonder how many people are persuaded by Strobel&#8217;s book. Perhaps if they&#8217;re reading the book, then they&#8217;re already asking questions, which for some may be the biggest step. I&#8217;m speculating again, I&#8217;ll stop now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eshu</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2009/12/review-the-case-for-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-954</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good observation. Yes, ethos is a big part of it.

I think he does a little more than a pastor, as he does mention counter arguments that would never be brought up in church, I guess. However, he then sweeps them aside with sometimes as little proper explanation as if he&#039;d said, &quot;But that&#039;s just ridiculous, no one really believes that&quot;. Perhaps it&#039;s not that he&#039;s really more thorough than a pastor, he just has more time/space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good observation. Yes, ethos is a big part of it.</p>
<p>I think he does a little more than a pastor, as he does mention counter arguments that would never be brought up in church, I guess. However, he then sweeps them aside with sometimes as little proper explanation as if he&#8217;d said, &#8220;But that&#8217;s just ridiculous, no one really believes that&#8221;. Perhaps it&#8217;s not that he&#8217;s really more thorough than a pastor, he just has more time/space.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorena</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2009/12/review-the-case-for-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did I miss this post? I&#039;ve been going through interesting stuff in my life of recent, and I neglected my regular blog reading.

It is an excellent review. I read the book in 2004. It was the last Christian book I ever read, and it put the last nail on my Christian coffin. 

The book bothered me, but I couldn&#039;t put the annoyance into words. You have helped me realize what it was that I found so suspicious. I remember being annoyed by too much scene setting. I remember thinking, &quot;This reads like a novel.&quot;

It also bothered me that he made his subject-matter experts look like ultimate authorities, as if they knew it all, and I had to believe just because those &quot;great&quot; people did.

In sum, the book relies too much on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/ethos.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ethos &lt;/a&gt;of the so-called experts, who in my opinion, were only experts in that they studied and believed what others said in the past.

The book resembles a Sunday morning sermon, where the pastor says all kind of stuff and devotees mostly believe because they&#039;re convinced he knows what he&#039;s talking about. In that sense, Strobel did a good job of preaching to the converted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did I miss this post? I&#8217;ve been going through interesting stuff in my life of recent, and I neglected my regular blog reading.</p>
<p>It is an excellent review. I read the book in 2004. It was the last Christian book I ever read, and it put the last nail on my Christian coffin. </p>
<p>The book bothered me, but I couldn&#8217;t put the annoyance into words. You have helped me realize what it was that I found so suspicious. I remember being annoyed by too much scene setting. I remember thinking, &#8220;This reads like a novel.&#8221;</p>
<p>It also bothered me that he made his subject-matter experts look like ultimate authorities, as if they knew it all, and I had to believe just because those &#8220;great&#8221; people did.</p>
<p>In sum, the book relies too much on the <a href="http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/ethos.html" rel="nofollow">ethos </a>of the so-called experts, who in my opinion, were only experts in that they studied and believed what others said in the past.</p>
<p>The book resembles a Sunday morning sermon, where the pastor says all kind of stuff and devotees mostly believe because they&#8217;re convinced he knows what he&#8217;s talking about. In that sense, Strobel did a good job of preaching to the converted.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the part where he tries to justify the Old Testament genocides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the part where he tries to justify the Old Testament genocides.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2009/12/review-the-case-for-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just passing through and noticed the Strobel reference.  You might want to see the question and answer series over on FriendlyAtheist by Hemant Mehta:

http://friendlyatheist.com/category/lee-strobel/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just passing through and noticed the Strobel reference.  You might want to see the question and answer series over on FriendlyAtheist by Hemant Mehta:</p>
<p><a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/category/lee-strobel/" rel="nofollow">http://friendlyatheist.com/category/lee-strobel/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eshu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone who&#039;s interested, I&#039;ve heard back from Clark Bunch who tells me he&#039;s still up for the book swap and will be getting back to me as soon as he can. To be fair to him he&#039;s had quite a hectic year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who&#8217;s interested, I&#8217;ve heard back from Clark Bunch who tells me he&#8217;s still up for the book swap and will be getting back to me as soon as he can. To be fair to him he&#8217;s had quite a hectic year.</p>
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		<title>By: Eshu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ebon. I vaguely remember reading that.
Although it doesn&#039;t directly ruin Strobel&#039;s case, it casts a lot of doubt on his integrity and does make you wonder what else he was willing to bend or twist for the sake of his argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ebon. I vaguely remember reading that.<br />
Although it doesn&#8217;t directly ruin Strobel&#8217;s case, it casts a lot of doubt on his integrity and does make you wonder what else he was willing to bend or twist for the sake of his argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Ebonmuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ebonmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One interesting thing I&#039;ve read about Strobel&#039;s book - via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/10/ufos-ghosts-and-a-rising-god.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris Hallquist&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s and &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; book - is that Strobel isn&#039;t necessarily offering a completely accurate recounting of the interviews he conducted. Hallquist contacted one of Strobel&#039;s experts, Craig Blomberg, who complained that Strobel heavily paraphrased, redacted, and oversimplified their conversation for the sake of apologetic expediency. In fact, he says Strobel&#039;s retelling introduced so many inaccuracies, he gave up on trying to get them all corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One interesting thing I&#8217;ve read about Strobel&#8217;s book &#8211; via <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/10/ufos-ghosts-and-a-rising-god.html" rel="nofollow">Chris Hallquist</a>&#8216;s and <i>his</i> book &#8211; is that Strobel isn&#8217;t necessarily offering a completely accurate recounting of the interviews he conducted. Hallquist contacted one of Strobel&#8217;s experts, Craig Blomberg, who complained that Strobel heavily paraphrased, redacted, and oversimplified their conversation for the sake of apologetic expediency. In fact, he says Strobel&#8217;s retelling introduced so many inaccuracies, he gave up on trying to get them all corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Eshu</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2009/12/review-the-case-for-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robthehall,

Ebon is reviewing a different book - The Case For A Creator, in great detail that I barely have the time to even read, let alone write. He covered &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/apologetics.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Case for Christ briefly&lt;/a&gt; quite a while ago. I get the impression that Strobel has a &lt;em&gt;Case For...&lt;/em&gt; theme going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robthehall,</p>
<p>Ebon is reviewing a different book &#8211; The Case For A Creator, in great detail that I barely have the time to even read, let alone write. He covered <a href="http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/apologetics.html" rel="nofollow">The Case for Christ briefly</a> quite a while ago. I get the impression that Strobel has a <em>Case For&#8230;</em> theme going.</p>
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		<title>By: robthehall</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2009/12/review-the-case-for-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>robthehall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder whether Clark has read ebon&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daylightatheism.org/series/the-case-for-a-creator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;review of the book&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s a far more critical series of posts responding to just about every point made by Strobel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder whether Clark has read ebon&#8217;s <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/series/the-case-for-a-creator" rel="nofollow">review of the book</a>. It&#8217;s a far more critical series of posts responding to just about every point made by Strobel.</p>
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