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		<title>Cryonics - Eternal Life or Wishful Thinking?</title>
		<link>http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/12/cryonics-life-saving-surgery-wishful-thinking/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Cryonics is the preservation of living humans or animals by extreme cooling with the aim of restoring them to a normal animate state at a later date. It is commonly confused (by me, at least) with cryogenics, which is simply the science of making things very cold.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Surgery.jpg/270px-Surgery.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="209" />Cryonics</a> is the preservation of living humans or animals by extreme cooling with the aim of restoring them to a normal animate state at a later date. It is commonly confused (by me, at least) with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic">cryogenics</a>, which is simply the science of making things very cold.</p>
<p>I mention this as I was quite surprised to see the <a href="http://www.theiet.org/">IET</a> <a href="http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0819/index.cfm">Engineering &amp; Technology magazine</a> featuring and article on <a href="http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0819/science-without-deadline.cfm">cryonics</a>. Like many people, I have always considered cryonics to be pure science fiction, taken seriously only by a minority of hopefuls who presumably desire to wake up in a world filled with rich eccentrics.</p>
<p>The article dispelled a number of my misconceptions. For example, modern cryonics is not freezing. Freezing causes ice crystals to form which makes a big gooey mess of cells, probably destroying any chance of revival. The modern process involves <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitrification">vitrification</a>, which is achieved by replacing cell-fluid with cryprotectant fluid before extreme cooling. This fluid is unfortunately toxic, at least you can&#8217;t live with it in place of your cell-fluid. So all cryopreservation work has to be done after legal death, otherwise they&#8217;d be killing the patient. However, cryonicists do not consider clinical death to be a real death - unless it involves the destruction of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theoretical_death">information in the brain</a>. Rather they consider cryonically preserved people to be alive but inactive, like someone in a deep coma. This is perhaps not unreasonable given the number of people who&#8217;ve been clinically dead - without heartbeat or breathing - and have been fu<img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="Alcor Dewar" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Alcor-Dewar2.jpg/180px-Alcor-Dewar2.jpg" alt="" width="116" height="229" />lly revived. Indeed this is the premise on which <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPR">CPR</a> is based.</p>
<p>While I certainly won&#8217;t be saving up to have myself cryopreserved, the whole thing seems slightly less crazy now. Slightly.</p>
<p>However, the process of reviving a cryonically preserved patient is still not possible with current technology. The hope is that future technology, especially <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotech">nanotechnology</a>, will someday be able to reconstruct a cyropreserved patient as well as reverse the aging process or condition which would have killed them. They also need to replace the cryoprotectant with cell-fluid. An alternative is to electronically scan the brain to reconstruct a working copy. Judging from the <a href="http://www.cryonics.org/reports/CI87.html">preservation case studies</a> provided by the non-profit <a href="http://www.cryonics.org/">Cryonics Institute</a>, preservation techniques appear to be carefully researched and carried out. Nevertheless, none of this is a guarantee of future revival. Cryonics currently requires an expensive leap of faith.</p>
<p>How big a leap? Is full revival of humans likely? The E&amp;T article interviewed Tanya Jones, Alcor Life Extension Foundation’s executive director who said,</p>
<blockquote><p>“While we are seeing that stem cells can actually revive every organ in the body, we still have many years of research until cryonics is a reversible procedure [...] However, recent testing has proven that it is already reversible for an individual organ down to -130°C, based on the testing of rabbit kidneys.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Meanwhile, Ben Best of the CI says,</p>
<blockquote><p>“Bull sperm have been successfully cryopreserved in liquid nitrogen and used for fertilisation since the early 1950s&#8230; And, since 1982, human embryos stored in liquid nitrogen have been used by fertility clinics with much success. Additionally, nematode worms have been successfully cryopreserved in liquid nitrogen and then revived.”</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; float:left;" title="Chimpanzee brain" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Chimp_Brain_in_a_jar.jpg/238px-Chimp_Brain_in_a_jar.jpg" alt="" width="162" height="203" />I&#8217;m no biologist, but it would seem there are some big differences between sperm and a  brain. In particular, sperm are individual cells, adapated to live outside the body for extended periods. Plus only a few of them need to survive for the revival process to be considered a success. A brain however, needs a constant supply of oxygen to prevent damage and can be irrevocably changed if a small percentage of cells die or the connections between them are lost. It&#8217;s difficult to tell how much damage has been done to even the most carefully cryopreserved human brains. Only when a human or animal has been revived and shown to have retained earlier memories can we say that there&#8217;s evidence this is possible. For now, my guess is that it&#8217;s unlikely people being cryopreserved today could be reanimated with their identity intact.</p>
<p>Having learnt about this, I wondered what religious people made of it. My assumption was that they&#8217;d be hopping up and down in anger that science is daring to intrude on the afterlife, which is usually considered sacred religious turf. Certainly it seems that the willingness to believe that cryonics can work may stem from a similar motivation to the belief in a supernatural afterlife - the fear of death.</p>
<p>To my surprise I&#8217;ve found little religious consternation over the ideas and aims of cryonics. Steve Tsai at apologetics.com considers the <a href="http://www.apologetics.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=235:cryogenic-resuscitations-and-naturalism&amp;catid=68:steve-tsai&amp;Itemid=64">implications of Crygenic Resuscitations for a Christian world-view</a> and concludes them to be no different from short-term resuscitations.</p>
<p>Part of this may be due to the way cryonics markets itself as a medical intervention for the living, rather than a ressurection of the dead. The Alcor Life Extension Foundation has a couple of thorough articles on cryonics and religion, comparing it to heart transplants and other life-saving surgery and concluding that we have a religiously-driven obligation to preserve life whenever possible and that this should include cryonics.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" style="border: 0pt none; float:left;" title="The Beatles" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/The_Beatles_in_America.JPG/180px-The_Beatles_in_America.JPG" alt="" width="180" height="127" />However, I suspect the main reason that religious institutions do not spend any time condemning organisations such as Alcor is because they don&#8217;t see them as a threat. There are still only a small minority of of the population willing and able to sign up for cryonic preservation and for most of us it remains science fiction. Even apparently innocuous subjects like Harry Potter or The Beatles can find themselves on the receiving end of religious wrath when they become popular enough to distract attention from religious ideas. I suspect that if cryonics was to become commonplace, such that many people&#8217;s fear of death was lessened, religions would lose one of their unique selling-points and express their disapproval in no uncertain terms.</p>
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		<title>Testimonials and Research</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[If you visit the website of any pseudo-scientific practitioner one thing almost always displayed is a list of testimonials - effusive endorsements from previous clients. For example, here&#8217;s an extract from the website of Cynde Van Vleet, a Tellington T Touch practitioner from California:
My experience with Cynde and her TTouch work has been nothing but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="Girl Petting A Dog" src="http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/p/ps/psyed/761698_girl_petting_a_dog.jpg" alt="" width="243" height="182" />If you visit the website of any pseudo-scientific practitioner one thing almost always displayed is a list of testimonials - effusive endorsements from previous clients. For example, here&#8217;s an extract from the website of <a href="http://www.icpaws.com/Success%20Stories.htm">Cynde Van Vleet</a>, a <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/08/when-woo-works/">Tellington T Touch</a> practitioner from California:</p>
<blockquote><p>My experience with Cynde and her TTouch work has been nothing but wonderful, rewarding, and informative.  Cynde is a most gentle  and intuitive animal lover who conducts herself professionally at all times, yet exudes warmth and kindness as well.  I have great respect and admiration for Cynde and the work she does with animals. Her knowledge of TTouch and the world of dogs is impressive, and I have learned a lot from her in our brief history together&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Similarly, here&#8217;s an example from alleged psychic Philena Bruce&#8217;s <a href="http://www.philena.co.uk">website</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I came to Philena when I was in a very dark place. Through her patience, guidance and gentleness, I genuinely left feeling hopeful. She held me together emotionally and spiritually throughout this time. She lit the candle in my mind and let my spirit guide me to light. She has a wonderful personality and in my heart I know our paths were meant to cross.&#8221;<br />
<em> K.K., London, Project Manager</em></p></blockquote>
<p>In most cases testimonials are intended to establish the credibility of the practitioner. In Philena&#8217;s case, the long list she provides also pushes the &#8220;entertainment only&#8221; disclaimer - which all psychics in the UK are <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/apr/06/eu">now legally obliged</a> to put on their literature - far out of the view of the casual visitor.</p>
<p>But are testimonials useful? Can we use them to work out how effective a treatment of practitioner is? Should we as consumers pay any attention to testimonials?</p>
<p>The most obvious problem with most testimonials, especially those you might find on websites, is with authenticity. It doesn&#8217;t take a huge amount of imagination to make up your own testimonials and in most cases it would be difficult to prove that they were fake. However, I doubt many of the testimonials I have seen have been faked. It seems more likely that they came from customers who were genuinely pleased with the service. I&#8217;ve no doubt that they have plenty of satisfied customers - I&#8217;ve met some of them.</p>
<p>However, we should keep in mind that testimonials are highly selective. They give us no indication of the percentage of customers who were satisfied with the service. Those who were not pleased with the service may not have given any report. They may have felt foolish for having tried it, so rather than write a negative testimonial, they may forget about it and get on with their lives. Even if they did write to complain, surely no one attempting to establish their credibility is going to publish their views. I&#8217;ve visited the personal websites of quite a few spiritual healers, fortune tellers and other sellers of pseudo-science, but I have yet to see a single negative testimonial. I think it unlikely that no customer has ever been dissatisfied with the services any of them provided.</p>
<p>How about if we independently collected testimonials from every customer who visited a particular therapist or fortune teller? Even then, we still wouldn&#8217;t be able to say with any certainty whether on not they had genuine abilities. We might be able to tell that they were friendly, professional, helpful and so on, but judging whether the treatment worked is something else. It has been well documented that people are more likely to judge something to have been a success once they have invested substantially in it - whether emotionally or financially. I suspect this is why payment or gift-giving always has to be part of the process of <a href="http://yunshui.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/healing-hands/">Reiki</a>. Perhaps on some subconscious level people say to themselves:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve paid more than my weekly grocery bill for this treatment. Only a fool would do that for something which doesn&#8217;t work. I know I&#8217;m not a fool, so it must have worked!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/jsp/id/Mistakes_Were_Made_but_Not_by_Me/9781905177219"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; float:left;" title="Mistakes Were Made" src="http://bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/images/jackets/l/19/1905177216.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="315" /></a>This effect is brilliantly explained in Carol Tarvis and Elliot Aronson&#8217;s book, <a href="http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2008/01/mistakes-were-1.html">Mistakes Were Made</a>.</p>
<p>It seems testimonials are a pretty unreliable guide to whether a medical treatment is effective or whether a psychic prediction is accurate. Certainly they are a very poor substitute for research. They are a <a href="http://skepdic.com/selectiv.html">selective</a> form of <a href="http://skepdic.com/testimon.html">anecdotal evidence</a>.</p>
<p>So why do they get used at all? I think there are several reasons.</p>
<p>Firstly, there are times when use of a testimonial is valid. It&#8217;s not just treatments with dubious efficacy that print praise from former clients. Testimonials are commonplace in all sorts of marketing - child carers, home builders, restaurants and so on.</p>
<p>In any situation where the customer is in a position to judge whether the service or treatment was effective a testimonial can be useful. For example, if the testimonial relates to a novel, film or restaurant, then the aim is entertainment and the customer is best qualified to say whether they have been entertained.</p>
<p>Secondly, testimonials are easy to understand. A clinical trial is not something that most people are willing to wade through. Doing so takes considerable effort and even an intelligent reader might not be able to judge the strength of the research.</p>
<p>Thirdly, testimonials are easy. All you need is a few satisfied customers to say you&#8217;re warm and friendly. A full research project is beyond the means of most independent therapists.</p>
<p>Lastly, testimonials are human. What other people tell us is how we gain most of our information, so it feels quite natural to read what other people say about a service or therapy.</p>
<p>None of these are especially good reasons to trust testimonials.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-390" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="Mircoscope and clipboard" src="http://bridgingschisms.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/mscope.jpg" alt="Mircoscope and clipboard" width="303" height="235" />Pharmaceutical companies have to put all their products through clinical trials before they can be marketed. I don&#8217;t think that other treatments should be subjected to any lesser scrutiny.</p>
<p>In an ideal world each therapists&#8217; techniques would be independently evaluated with something akin to clinical trials, before an official regulator&#8217;s endorsement could be given. The next best thing would be for their methods to be independently reviewed and researched to discover whether they can work. However, the money to do this research has to come from somewhere, perhaps a jointly-funded regulatory body whose research and methods are made public.</p>
<p>Alternative therapists have told me that clinical trials are biased and corrupt due to the companies pursuit of profit above all else. There have certainly been some cases where this is true and there&#8217;s a case for improving accountability and publication of medical research in general. However, I imagine the situation would be much worse if the pharmaceutical industry could validate new medicines simply by gathering testimonials.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been told that using testimonials instead of research is acceptable for alternative treatments because laying your hands on someone or <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/10/hands-up-anyone-believe-in-palmistry/">reading their palm</a> doesn&#8217;t have harmful side-effects that ingested medicines can. However, the purpose of clinical trials is twofold; to ensure there are no dangerous side-effects and to ensure the treatment is effective. Giving someone an ineffective treatment - even for free - is irresponsible and dangerous in itself.</p>
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		<title>Review: Why People Believe Weird Things</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eshu</dc:creator>
		
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Michael Shermer&#8217;s skeptical book, Why People Believe Weird Things has been around since the late nineties. I should probably have read and reviewed it sooner; so much of the content is relevant to what I write about here. I&#8217;ve had the book a while now, but a few weeks ago I managed to wrestle the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Michael Shermer&#8217;s skeptical book, <a href="http://www.michaelshermer.com/weird-things/">Why People Believe Weird Things</a> has been around since the late nineties. I should probably have read and reviewed it sooner; so much of the content is relevant to what I write about here. I&#8217;ve had the book a while now, but a few weeks ago I managed to wrestle the book back from my wife and actually read it. I&#8217;m glad I did.</p>
<p>Shermer starts the book by explaining what he means by a weird thing, the difference between science and pseudoscience and how skepticism works. He also gets my respect for admitting to the weird beliefs he previously held, which included a variety of unusual treatments alleged to enhance the performance of athletes. He cites their complete failure to improve his competitive cycling as one of the reasons he became a skeptic.</p>
<p>The majority of the book is devoted to covering a wide variety of weird beliefs. These include paranormal abilities, alien abduction, creationism, Ayn Rand&#8217;s objectivism and even holocaust denial. Shermer has certainly done his homework on all of these, providing some fascinating quotes and an 18-page bibliography for those looking for further reading. In several cases, the author has had direct experience of debating with those who believe weird things, on radio and television. These accounts are candid and modest - he spends more time noting his frustrations and failures to get his message across than he does celebrating great victories for reason. I found this to be all the more enlightening.</p>
<p>I found myself shaking my head in wonder and horror at some of the ridiculous and repugnant ideas described. However, Shermer carefully describes, dissects and debunks each of the weird beliefs without resorting to ridicule or personal attacks. Furthermore, the explanations are easy to follow and the book as a whole is pleasingly free of unexplained scientific or philosophical language.</p>
<p>Only in the last section does the book really address the question of its title. The harder question this leads to is why smart people believe weird things. Shermer concludes that, being of above-average intelligence is no guarantee of being free from weird beliefs. It seems that great minds do not necessarily think alike. He summarises his explanation for this as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>Smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for non-smart reasons.</p></blockquote>
<p>I found this to be a surprising revelation, but one which Shermer has arrived at after much study across the diverse range of beliefs described in the book. Too often it seems that people take it as an insult to their intelligence to say that they believe something weird. To accept that even the most intellectually gifted amongst us have blindspots in our understanding of the world is a step in the right direction.</p>
<p>I had, perhaps naïvely expected the book to be entirely about the psychology of belief. I found the descriptions of weird beliefs to be very interesting, although I would have preferred more discussion of the successes and failures of his debates and the thought processes behind the beliefs.</p>
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		<title>Six Things Meme</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the chaplain tagged me recently with the Six Things Meme.
These are the rules:
1. Link to the person who tagged you.
2. Post the rules on your blog.
3. Write six random, arbitrary things about yourself.
4. Tag six people at the end of your post and link to them.
5. Let each person know they’ve been tagged and leave [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thechapel.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/six-things-meme/">the chaplain</a> tagged me recently with the Six Things Meme.</p>
<p>These are the rules:</p>
<p>1. Link to the person who tagged you.<br />
2. Post the rules on your blog.<br />
3. Write six random, arbitrary things about yourself.<br />
4. Tag six people at the end of your post and link to them.<br />
5. Let each person know they’ve been tagged and leave a comment on their blog.<br />
6. Let the tagger know when your entry is up.</p>
<p>Here are my six arbitrary but not entirely random things:</p>
<p>1. I despise paperwork more than any other chore.  Actually, I have some paperwork to do right now. Maybe I&#8217;ll clean the toilet first.<br />
2. I&#8217;m happily married to a woman who is better at football (soccer) than me.<br />
3. I have a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index">BMI</a> of 21.3 kg/m<sup>2</sup>.<br />
4. My hair has a mind of its own. It&#8217;s extremely coarse and refuses to lie flat. My parents have a school photo of me aged about ten looking smart and neat except for of a huge tuft of hair sticking up at the back.<br />
5. I can swim 50 metres underwater in a single breath.<br />
6. I&#8217;m slightly scared of heights.</p>
<p>I prefer not to tag people, but if you like the idea of the Six Things Meme, by all means carry it on and leave a comment below.</p>
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		<title>Truth vs Comfort</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While considering the beliefs of eccentrics like Garvan in his post &#8220;Right Not To Think&#8220;, yunshui recently questioned whether it would be morally right in every case to change the minds of those who believe falsehoods.
Most, like Garvan, have entwined religion so inextricably into their psyche that no amount of evidence or argument will ever [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While considering the beliefs of eccentrics like <a href="http://garvanellison.blogspot.com/">Garvan</a> in his post &#8220;<a href="http://yunshui.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/right-not-to-think/">Right Not To Think</a>&#8220;, yunshui recently questioned whether it would be morally right in every case to change the minds of those who believe falsehoods.</p>
<blockquote><p>Most, like Garvan, have entwined religion so inextricably into their psyche that no amount of evidence or argument will ever convince them of their fallacy, but if one could unravel and break the faith-wire wrapped around their minds, would that be a kind thing to do?</p></blockquote>
<p>To my mind, whether helping to de-convert someone is moral or not depends on the consequences of de-conversion for him and others. I think we can only guess at what they might be. If it was guaranteed to make him a happier and more tolerant person (as it does <a href="http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/index.html#deconversions">many people</a>), then I&#8217;d say yes, of course.</p>
<p>But what extreme measures would be required to convert a devout and apparently deranged believer? Thoroughly educating them about the irrationality of their beliefs? Surrounding them by a community of non-believers? Isolating them from any religious influence? I suspect that in many cases a person&#8217;s beliefs are so deeply ingrained that the methods required to change their minds would be so extreme as to be immoral in themselves, never mind what the outcome might be.</p>
<p>Then again perhaps yunshui is thinking more along the lines of a thought-experiment. What if Garvan had grown up in a friendly, supportive and non-religious environment. What if he&#8217;d never heard of Jesus? What kind of person would he be? Again, I think we can only speculate.</p>
<p>It seems intuitively true that the world would be a better place if everyone believed only what was true. False beliefs lead people to bad decisions. That is why we should <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/06/why-do-we-care.html">care about what people believe</a>. But perhaps there are cases where delusions are helpful or at least have some beneficial effects. The superstitious rituals carried out by people in risky situations, such as <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/08/wild-honey/">gathering honey while dangling from a cliff</a>, can make them feel safe when they&#8217;re not. That can have advantages and disadvantages.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-348" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="wilderbeest250" src="http://bridgingschisms.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/wilderbeest250.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="165" />One argument is to let people believe whatever makes them happy and not to challenge it. For instance, if they really need to go deep sea fishing in a small wooden boat or hunt wilderbeast so that their family can eat, then they might as well be made to feel comfortable while taking such huge risks. On the other hand, someone who has performed a meaningless ritual may be recklessly emboldened by the thought that they&#8217;ve done something useful to protect themselves. Far better that they are cautious and forced to look for practical ways to minimise the risk. For a start they could look at the weather before setting off.</p>
<p>But getting back to religious beliefs, in the majority of cases I see no reason not to question and challenge apparently false beliefs. Indeed, I think we all have a responsibility to work out what is true and to educate others as best we can.</p>
<p>However, in cases of religious mania (or at least extreme eccentricity) the results could be unpredictable and possibly detrimental. As yunshui points out, psychologists have considered this question already.</p>
<blockquote><p>Many delusional patients actually need their strange beliefs in order to function, so removing the framework of their worldview can be unproductive and even dangerous.</p></blockquote>
<p>So was Colonel Jessep right when he said, &#8220;You can&#8217;t handle the truth!&#8221;?  Those who&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.users.bigpond.com/pmurray/exchristian/Stories/0219.html">changed their minds</a> in favour of atheism often report feelings of freedom and happiness as a result. However, de-conversion can be a traumatic process, even for those on a fairly even keel.</p>
<p>For those with a delusion related to mental illness the answer is more complicated and as a layperson I&#8217;d defer to the opinions of the psychologists involved.</p>
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		<title>Probably An Atheist Bus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am rather late in covering this, so by now I imagine everyone is familiar with the Atheist Bus Campaign, which has probably generated more publicity than the eventual bus adverts ever could. It started when Ariane Sherine (pictured) wrote an piece in the Guardian&#8217;s Comment is Free section complaining about one-sided religious advertising:
&#8220;Yesterday I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-320" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="ariane-250" src="http://bridgingschisms.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ariane-250.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="227" />I am rather late in covering this, so by now I imagine everyone is familiar with the <a href="http://www.atheistcampaign.org/">Atheist Bus Campaign</a>, which has probably generated more publicity than the eventual bus adverts ever could. It started when Ariane Sherine (pictured) wrote an piece in the Guardian&#8217;s Comment is Free section complaining about <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/20/transport.religion">one-sided religious advertising</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but two London buses with the question: &#8220;When the son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth?&#8221; (Luke 18:8). It seems you wait ages for a bus with an unsettling Bible quote, then two come along at once.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The website featured on the advert contained dire warnings about hell fire and damnation, which is really not what you need on a Monday morning when you&#8217;re late for work. Ariane did some homework and suggested that with moderate support a similar advert could be bought by atheists - one with a more tolerant, uplifting message. She suggested:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There&#8217;s probably no God. Now stop worrying and get on with your life.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The atheist bus campaign caught on well and has so far <a href="http://www.justgiving.com/atheistbus">raised over 117,000 pounds</a> - enough for several bus adverts. However, the proposed wording of the advert has caused dissatisfaction amongst some atheists. The &#8220;probably&#8221; is described as a cop-out, too weak, too uncertain. A friend of mine expressed her disappointment by saying, &#8220;It&#8217;s more of an Agnostic Bus Campaign really isn&#8217;t it?&#8221;.</p>
<p>There are two things I want to discuss. Firstly, the philosophy geek&#8217;s question of whether the slogan is Atheistic, Agnostic or something else? Secondly, is it a good message to slap on the side of a bus?</p>
<h2>An Agnostic Atheist Slogan?</h2>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick summary of the non-believing spectrum as I see it:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Strong Atheist</strong> - &#8220;I believe there is definitely no god and I have no doubt about this.&#8221;<br />
<strong>Weak Atheist</strong> - &#8220;I believe there is no god but I do not have absolute certainty about this.&#8221;<br />
<strong>Agnostic</strong> - &#8220;I do not know if there is a god.&#8221; (literally &#8216;without knowledge&#8217;)</p>
<p>Naturally these are not hard either-or distinctions and many people are somewhere between the above positions. There are also several other non-religious positions some of which I <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/10/ignostic-igtheists-or-weak-atheists">covered previously</a>.</p>
<p>In practice the vast majority of those who speak of themselves as atheists are of the &#8220;weak&#8221; variety (aka &#8220;Agnostic atheists&#8221;). The reason is that it&#8217;s notoriously difficult to prove the non-existence of anything, whether it&#8217;s gods, unicorns or a teapot orbiting the sun. The problem with trying to find any of those is when to stop searching. OK, so we&#8217;ve searched the world&#8217;s mountain ranges and the plains, but what if these mythical beasts exist in the Arctic, or the deepest oceans, or on the moon?</p>
<p>In science and philosophy no knowledge is beyond doubt. If it were, then we might still be believing that the Sun goes around the Earth or that light travels in a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_ether">luminiferous ether</a>. So strictly speaking a non-believer in unicorns should say, &#8220;There are probably no unicorns&#8221;. For simplicity this usually comes out as &#8220;There are no unicorns&#8221;. Not a strict provable statement, but simple enough for everyday language which gets the idea across.</p>
<p>You can however often disprove specific religious claims - for example <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/geocentric_model">geocentrism</a> or an omnipotent deity who doesn&#8217;t allow lightning.</p>
<p>I said it was a philosophy geek&#8217;s question.</p>
<h2>Probably the best bus in the world</h2>
<p>So does the word &#8220;Probably&#8221; trammel the proposed advertisement&#8217;s intention? Can it still make people stop and think?</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-323" style="border: 0pt none; float:left;" title="bus-mockup-250" src="http://bridgingschisms.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bus-mockup-250.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="230" />I know some believers have responded to the uncertainty of the slogan with ridicule, apparently amused that those noisy atheists aren&#8217;t so sure of what they believe after all. Others may think it cowardly.</p>
<p>Many religious people are comforted by the absolute certainty with which their beliefs are claimed. Uncertainty and dilemmas can be unsettling. For people who feel that way, believing something is &#8220;probably the case&#8221;, never mind contributing to an advert to tell people it is &#8220;probably the case&#8221;, is laughable.</p>
<p>But I think expressing doubt is a good thing. I&#8217;m certainly not the first person to say that, for example Bertrand Russell:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think we ought always to entertain our opinions with some measure of doubt. I shouldn&#8217;t wish people dogmatically to believe any philosophy, not even mine.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Furthermore, I&#8217;m all too aware that believers regularly accuse atheists of being every bit as irrational as the religious. Some have even written books claiming they <a href="http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/10/31/xfiles-friday-i-was-a-98-pound-weakling/">don&#8217;t have enough faith to be an atheist</a>. In the case of strong atheism (or strong unicorn-disbelief), I think that accusation would be justified. What evidence could provide absolute certainty that there were no unicorns (or gods)? To have <em>absolute certainty</em> that gods or unicorns did not exist <em>would</em> require faith.</p>
<p>The &#8220;probably&#8221; has certainly caused surprise amongst some religious believers. American Evangelical minister, <a href="http://themasterstable.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/theres-probably-no-god/">Clark Bunch reacted</a> on his blog as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>What surprises me is that Dawkins would settle for such a weak position.  “There’s probably no God” is not spoken with nearly the certainty with which Christians recite the Apostles’ Creed.  I’ve never sung a hymn nor heard a street preacher shout “There probably is a God.”  The slogan even allows the possibility the God may exist.  If all atheists were this soft, I probably wouldn’t give them such a hard time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is where the massive misconception comes in.</p>
<p>Most atheists wouldn&#8217;t say they have absolute certainty about their beliefs. Despite all the hype and accusations of atheist fundamentalism, <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/">Richard Dawkins</a> doesn&#8217;t claim absolute certainty of his beliefs. If someone says, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in god&#8221;, they&#8217;re not necessarily claiming that their belief is beyond doubt. If I said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe it will rain tomorrow&#8221; would it be taken as read that I&#8217;m so sure about it I&#8217;d be willing to bet my life on it? Would I be called a fundamentalist meteorologist? Of course not. But for many believers, ordinary non-belief in deities is taken as a statement of absolute certainty requiring irrational faith. Perhaps this is a kind of psychological projection of their own attitudes to belief?</p>
<p>The slightly dull reality is that the inclusion of the word &#8220;probably&#8221; was at the insistence of the bus company selling the advertising space, who don&#8217;t want to offend religious believers.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I like the phrasing of the slogan. Atheists know only too well how irritating it is to have other people&#8217;s unquestionable certainties shoved in their faces and should be slower to commit the same effrontery. The advert makes a point, without having to make the bold claims of absolute certainty usually used by those lacking good evidence.</p>
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		<title>Hands Up - Anyone Believe In Palmistry?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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I did.
Palmistry (also known as Chiromancy) is the reading of people&#8217;s hands to discover their fortune and personality type.  This is not limited the lines on the palm, but the shape of the hand and its proportions including length of fingers, natural lumps or &#8220;mounts&#8221; on the palm and the colour and condition of the [...]]]></description>
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<p>I did.</p>
<p>Palmistry (also known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiromancy">Chiromancy</a>) is the reading of people&#8217;s hands to discover their fortune and personality type.  This is not limited the lines on the palm, but the shape of the hand and its proportions including length of fingers, natural lumps or &#8220;mounts&#8221; on the palm and the colour and condition of the nails and skin.</p>
<p>I got interested in this in my early teens after observing a fellow holidaymaker informally read people&#8217;s hands for entertainment at a social gathering. I got a few books on the subject and read the hands of my friends, most of whom were intrigued. Some Christian friends made sanctimonious remarks, but I responded that the Bible has a (admittedly vague) reference to people&#8217;s hands in <a href="http://scripturetext.com/job/37-7.htm">Job 37:7</a></p>
<blockquote><p>He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work.  - KJV</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, now I look at it again, that is <em>really</em> vague and says nothing about the legitimacy or not of reading hands. There are more direct references in many other cultures and religions.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I was an especially convincing palmist. Although I certainly believed in the validity of what I was saying I was naturally hesitant and guarded in my pronouncements on people&#8217;s hands. Perhaps with time I could&#8217;ve unintentionally learnt <a href="http://skepdic.com/coldread.html">cold reading</a>. However, as with most teenage fads, I slowly lost interest in palmistry as I grew up.</p>
<p>Some modern palmists play down the future prediction aspect of hand reading, perhaps because it sounds too stereotyped, easy to say and difficult to verify until years later, when any failed predictions will likely be forgotten. However, a quick survey of palmist&#8217;s websites shows almost all are involved in some other method of fortune or personality divination. <a href="http://www.amelieappleby.com">Amelie Appleby</a> is a palmist who also practices crystal ball and tarot card readings. <a href="http://www.philena.co.uk/">Philena Bruce</a> also offers a wide variety of psychic services including readings of photographs and healing through sound. Unfortunately, none offer any independent research showing the efficacy of their claims.</p>
<p>However, I discovered with excitement that one hand reading website does include <a href="http://www.humanhand.com/forereffect.html">a discussion</a> of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect">Forer Effect</a>. <a href="http://palmistryandhandanalysis.blogspot.com/">Ken Lagerstrom</a> of <a href="http://www.humanhand.com">HumanHand.com</a> writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Forer Effect (also called the <em>Barnum Effect</em> or <em>Subjective Validation Effect</em>) refers to the tendency to accept vague or general statements as being very personal and accurate. The Forer Effect is a serious consideration in hand analysis, for both the professional and client. Psychologist Bertram R. Forer ran a series of tests in which he gave people a personality profile and asked them to rate its accuracy. Forer actually gave each person the exact same profile&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>The test subjects rated these supposedly individual profiles as <strong>85% accurate</strong>! With a vague enough profile that is mostly positive, most people will believe at least part of it truly relates to them.</p>
<p>Positivity is clearly important for the clients of psychic readers. <a href="http://www.amelieappleby.com/index.htm">Amelie Appleby</a>, perhaps unwittingly, acknowledges this need:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Amelie&#8217;s intuitive palm, tarot and crystal ball readings are positive and upbeat, full of enthusiasm and integrity, good humour and great fun.</p></blockquote>
<p>Certainly people paying money are more likely to be pleased with a reading that predicts meeting a tall dark handsome stranger (although they&#8217;re probably smart enough not to use those exact words) than one divining a life of miserable solitude. Crucially, I think people are also <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/06/desirability-bias/">more likely to believe things they find comforting</a>.</p>
<p>Sadly, despite a promising looking article, Ken Lagerstrom ends up resorting to ad-hominem attacks:</p>
<blockquote><p>In my experience, the real hard-core skeptics are just as fanatical (and biased, judgemental, self-certain, etc.) as the more extreme religious zealots. It&#8217;s just a different &#8220;faith&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>To call skepticism a faith is to broaden the definition of faith to become meaningless. A hard-core skeptic (or at least a serious one) is willing to assess the evidence and reach a tentative conclusion. Some skeptics get sick of hearing anecdotal evidence presented as if it were absolute proof. That might make them cynical about vague pseudo-science claims after a while. That&#8217;s not the same as being a zealot.</p>
<p>Then he presents a flawed analogy:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you go to your doctor and hear him say &#8220;You need to examine your habits with diet and exercise, because you are damaging your health with your present body weight.&#8221;, does that physician&#8217;s diagnosis get dismissed along with the entire field of orthodox medicine?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, you&#8217;d test his claim. Excessive weight may affect many people, but you can measure the person&#8217;s <a href="http://www.eatwell.gov.uk/healthydiet/healthyweight/bmicalculator/">BMI</a> and compare it to the healthy band. All conventional medical advice is in a constant state of being formally tested and reviewed. This is a good thing; it leads to better understanding and treatments.</p>
<p>It might not be as simple to test a hand reading, but some fair experiments could be devised and carried out on a statistically significant number of people. Specific predictions could be recorded and compared in later years to reality and their chance of occurring. Importantly the subjects should be blind to the predictions made. For example, telling someone they&#8217;ll make a journey to the Far East could influence their decision and is statistically fairly likely for certain demographics. Recording as part of the experiment that they&#8217;ll find a new job in early 2009 with a French company would be more significant if it occurred. Similarly personality predictions could be carefully controlled (perhaps so only the hands are seen) and compared to psychological assessments and surveys made beforehand.</p>
<blockquote><p>The problem was, I began really searching for statistical proof that all palmistry was nothing more than superstitious garbage for the weak-minded.</p></blockquote>
<p>That certainly was the problem. Ken Lagerstrom was trying to prove a negative. No matter how many charlatans employing the Forer Effect, cold reading or other psychological techniques (whether deliberately or not) he uncovered, he would always be wondering if the next one might be genuine. It&#8217;s like trying to prove the non-existence of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_teapot">celestial teapot</a> orbiting the sun. Proving its existence is theoretically possible (simply by finding one), but proving it&#8217;s non-existence can never be done. At what point would you stop searching?</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean we have to believe all extraordinary claims by default. Rather, the skeptic should tentatively disbelieve something out of the ordinary until appropriate evidence is presented. The burden of proof is most definitely on the psychics making the claims, all the more so if they are charging money for their services.</p>
<p>In the UK at least, new regulations have made this clear and on one website I noticed that, below her many testimonials, at the bottom of the page in small print, <a href="http://www.philena.co.uk/">Philena Bruce</a> has included this message.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This service is intended for entertainment purposes.<br />
This is a scientific experiment, the results of which cannot be guaranteed.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if such regulations will make a difference to the wishful-thinking punters considering paying for a psychic reading, but it is a step in the right direction. Just to be clear I&#8217;d have no problem with these businesses if they could provide evidence that their psychic claims are true - to a standard similar to that required of other products. If they can&#8217;t, then every consumer should ask themselves why that is.</p>
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		<title>An Atheist Meme</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was tagged recently by Lynet, so I thought I&#8217;d share a few details of my beliefs and how they&#8217;ve changed.
Can you remember the day that you officially became an atheist?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was <a href="http://elliptica.blogspot.com/2008/10/if-you-tag-people-people-tag-back.html">tagged recently</a> by <a href="http://elliptica.blogspot.com/">Lynet</a>, so I thought I&#8217;d share a few details of my beliefs and how they&#8217;ve changed.</p>
<p><strong>Can you remember the day that you officially became an atheist?</strong></p>
<p>No, it was a gradual progression. I became bored and frustrated with the lack of answers from the church youth group I attended and drifted out of it, still probably more agnostic than atheist.</p>
<p><strong>Do you remember the day you officially became an agnostic?</strong></p>
<p>I suspect I was always a bit agnostic, although there was a time I would&#8217;ve certainly described myself as a Christian. I could possibly have been described as a social Christian.</p>
<p><strong>How about the last time you spoke or prayed to God with actual thought that someone was listening?</strong></p>
<p>Probably in my early teens, mostly motivated by personal anxiety. When I was younger I remember praying every day. I never got any answers but I certainly thought someone was listening.</p>
<p><strong>Did anger towards God or religion help cause you to be an atheist or agnostic?</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I was exactly angry at God, but I was frustrated and fed up with vague religious lectures. I was also appalled and perplexed by the <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/07/divine-injustice/">injustice of divine judgement</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Were you agnostic towards ghosts, even after you became an atheist?</strong></p>
<p>Only recently have I become properly sceptical about ghosts, when I was previously agnostic about them. This attitude didn&#8217;t seem to change at the same time as my religious beliefs. I guess I hadn&#8217;t got around to questioning those ideas properly. If people mentioned ghostly experiences I wouldn&#8217;t be sure what to think. I suppose I found ghosts exciting and liked to entertain some belief in them for that reason. These days I&#8217;d have no hesitation is saying, &#8220;Show me the evidence&#8221; and &#8220;No a smudge or <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/09/orbs/">speck on a photo</a> is not evidence&#8221;.<br />
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Do you want to be wrong?</strong></p>
<p>Partly.</p>
<p>On the one hand, I&#8217;m pretty glad that the world isn&#8217;t being watched over by a deity who allows great tragedies to occur without lifting a finger or judges people for making an honest mistake regarding their beliefs.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I would certainly like to live forever. The common ideas of heaven are quite weird and nonsensical and often sound like the kind of blissful tedium that would make a sane person long for oblivion, but I think a lot of people would like to live forever. I guess that&#8217;s the biggest part of religion&#8217;s marketing hype.</p>
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		<title>What on Earth is free will?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Almost every philosopher and belief-pundit has had a crack at the question of whether humans have free will. It is a pretty wide-spread belief, among both theists and atheists alike. There&#8217;s a huge quantity of dense text on the subject spanning several centuries. This post however, will be accessible and fun. Simply picture your most [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every philosopher and belief-pundit has had a crack at the question of whether humans have free will. It is a pretty wide-spread belief, among both theists and <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/04/on-free-will-iv.html">atheists</a> alike. There&#8217;s a huge quantity of dense text on the subject spanning several centuries. This post however, will be accessible and fun. Simply picture your most groovy, over-enthusiastic schoolteacher and you&#8217;ll get the idea.</p>
<p>For any religion with a judgement theme free will is a particularly thorny issue. It&#8217;s hardly fair to judge non-free beings according to some rules they were unable to obey. However, with an omnipotent, omniscient being in the frame, how can free will be preserved? If a god made you and everything around you and knows exactly what you&#8217;re going to do - how can you do anything else without making him wrong? As far as I can tell, The Bible is <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=%22free+will%22&amp;searchtype=any&amp;version1=31&amp;spanbegin=1&amp;spanend=73">strangely lacking</a> a direct discussion of free will; some would say it even <a href="http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/christianity_freewill.html">denies free will entirely</a>. However, later theologians realised the problems and tried to patch up the holes. The Catholic Encyclopaedia acknowledges the issues in its <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm">article on free will</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>But God possesses an infallible knowledge of man&#8217;s future actions. How is this prevision possible, if man&#8217;s acts are not necessary? [...] Further, God&#8217;s omnipotent providence exercises a complete and <!--k55=xxyyyk.htm-->perfect<!--k30--> control over all events that happen, or <!--k32=xxyyyk.htm-->will<!--k30--> happen, in the universe. How is this secured without infringement of <!--k32=09580c.htm-->man&#8217;s<!--k30--> freedom?</p></blockquote>
<p>The article goes into some history, but their case for free will finishes up with an &#8220;Ethical argument&#8221; and a &#8220;Psychological argument&#8221;. The ethical argument states that since moral ideas about justice and responsibility are near-universally accepted, free will must be real. I think this merely argues for the near-universal belief in free will, not free will itself.</p>
<p>Similarly, the psychological argument does not prove what it claims:</p>
<blockquote><p>Consciousness<!--k30--> testifies to our <!--k54=10559a.htm-->moral<!--k30--> freedom. We feel ourselves to be free when exercising <!--k54=03539b.htm-->certain<!--k30--> <!--k38=xxyyyk.htm-->acts<!--k30-->. We <!--k55=xxyyyk.htm-->judge<!--k30--> afterwards that we <!--k55=xxyyyk.htm-->acted<!--k30--> freely in those <!--k38=xxyyyk.htm-->acts<!--k30-->.</p></blockquote>
<p>This only demonstrates the perception or illusion of free will. We&#8217;re no closer to showing whether humans truly have free will.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, <a href="http://bridgingschisms.org/2008/06/desirability-bias/">Buddhism</a> is pretty vague on free-will, citing the interconnectedness of all things and giving the implication that humans are partly free.</p>
<p>More secular philosophers have argued in terms of determinism - the idea that events in the universe are in theory predictable, given enough information - and whether this scuppers free will. Hard determinists, such as Baron d&#8217;Holbach took the view that since the universe was deterministic, no one could be free from that determinism. Determinism is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism#Determinism.2C_quantum_mechanics.2C_and_classical_physics">far from certain</a>, but I don&#8217;t think it is the real issue. Surely random events beyond a person&#8217;s control would be no more helpful to free will than deterministic ones?</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="Arthur Schopenhauer" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Schopenhauer.jpg/180px-Schopenhauer.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="215" />I think <a title="Arthur Schopenhauer" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer">Arthur Schopenhauer</a> (He of the surprised hair, right)  got a little warmer when he said,</p>
<blockquote><p>“A man can surely do what he wants to do. But he cannot determine what he wants.”</p></blockquote>
<p>But this week&#8217;s Bridging Schisms &#8220;I wish I&#8217;d written that&#8221; prize* goes to <a href="http://web.mac.com/gstrawson/iWeb/philosophy/Galen%20Strawson.html">Galen Strawson</a>, who explains in simple terms why the idea of free will is nonsensical. It is best summarised with the title of his <a href="http://www.believermag.com/issues/200303/?read=interview_strawson">interview in The Believer</a> (which I highly recommend) - &#8220;You cannot make yourself the way you are&#8221;.</p>
<p>Galen Strawson argues that to be responsible for one&#8217;s actions, one must also be responsible for one&#8217;s mental state. You might think in some cases it&#8217;s possible to get yourself into a particular frame of mind, to beat an addiction or get some work done, but this must be the result of some previous mental state, which in turn was brought about by yet another previous state and so on. As you can&#8217;t will yourself out of nothing, Strawson argues, free will does not exist.</p>
<p>This is a somewhat unusual viewpoint - the majority of people seem to believe in some kind of free will, both <a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/364561/free_will_and_the_christian_viewpoint.html?cat=34">religious</a> and <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/on-free-will-i.html">non-religious</a> writers have said as much - but I think it makes sense.</p>
<p>Professor Strawson is the first to admit that the lack of free will has some unsettling consequences for &#8220;ultimate responsibility&#8221;, which he carefully differentiates from everyday moral responsibility. We cannot be ultimately responsible for the way we are nor therefore, for the choices we make as a result of the way we are. That might sound worrying - how can we hold people responsible for their actions if they have no ultimate responsibility? Isn&#8217;t it necessary that a civilised society holds people responsible for their actions? I don&#8217;t think we should abandon an idea because we do not like the apparent consequences of it. We should abandon ideas only if they are incorrect.</p>
<p>In practice however, I don&#8217;t think the lack of free will or ultimate responsibility has huge implications for society and justice. There are still good reasons for laws and punishments. For a start, laws can influence the choices people make because of the penalties they would incur. Whether or not people are truly free, discouraging them from committing violent acts is a good thing. If there&#8217;s any change in attitude that the lack of free will might bring about, it could be in shifting our focus from punishment of offenders to protection of would-be victims. Throwing a serial-killer in prison still looks like a good option because it could prevent further murders.</p>
<p>So it is reasonable to hold individuals morally responsible as a good way to influence behaviour and to improve society. The lack of free will or ultimate responsibility doesn&#8217;t mean you have an excuse for neglecting your homework - no matter how groovy your teacher!</p>
<p>* - the prize is a link to his website.</p>
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		<title>Ignostic igtheists or weak atheists - what&#8217;s in a name?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed recently that a friend&#8217;s online profile showed &#8220;Ignostic&#8221; to describe his religious beliefs. I hadn&#8217;t heard of this before, so I asked him about it. Joe responded that he&#8217;d not done much reading into the subject, but it seemed to sum up his objections to religion.
Put simply, my main reason for taking the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone" style="border: 0pt none; float:right;" title="Stars" src="http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/m/ma/magicmarie/1005288_starry_night.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="212" />I noticed recently that a friend&#8217;s online profile showed &#8220;Ignostic&#8221; to describe his religious beliefs. I hadn&#8217;t heard of this before, so I asked him about it. Joe responded that he&#8217;d not done much reading into the subject, but it seemed to sum up his objections to religion.</p>
<blockquote><p>Put simply, my main reason for taking the ignostic position is that defining what it is you are blathering on about is simply a matter of intellectual honesty&#8230;It&#8217;s all very well to use words [...] in a loose manner in which the listener can get the gist of what you are saying&#8230;</p>
<p>I suppose I like the socratian nature of it though: the idea to ask the question &#8220;What do you mean by God?&#8221; rather than to proscribe an answer to it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is pretty much the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignostic">informal definition of Ignosticism</a>. It turns out that &#8220;ignostic&#8221; is a somewhat new term and Wikipedia marks it as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NEO">neologism</a> - not yet in common usage or dictionaries.</p>
<p>As far as Wikiedia is concerned, Ignosticism is the same as Igtheism. I have heard of igtheism before - a local humanist explained it as, &#8220;Ignorance of existence of god(s), so we might as well act as if they don&#8217;t exist.&#8221;</p>
<p>The question is, do we need these new terms? The beliefs held by Ignostics and Igtheists seem to be adequately covered by the varieties of atheism and agnosticism. Even within those flavours of belief there is some overlap.</p>
<p>For example, <a href="http://apatheticagnostic.org/ourchurch/intro.html">Apathetic Agnosticism</a> states that the existence of a supreme being is both unknown and unknowable and that any such being does not appear to take enough interest in the world to intervene and is therefore irrelevant. This is quite similar to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_agnosticism">strong agnosticism</a>, or the humourously characterized &#8220;<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071108213524AAL3ceT">militant agnosticism</a>&#8221; - &#8220;I don&#8217;t know and neither do you!&#8221;</p>
<p>All of this isn&#8217;t very far from the position of most atheists - that of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_and_strong_atheism">weak atheism</a>. My take on weak atheism is,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Due to lack of evidence, I don&#8217;t believe that there are any gods. I think it is possible that such evidence may exist, but it seems very unlikely.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignnone" style="border: 0pt none; float:left;" title="Radio telescope" src="http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/i/iv/ivarbosma/381373_telescopes_on_top_of_mauna_kea.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" />Atheism is often misunderstood to mean &#8220;Strong atheism&#8221; - &#8220;There are definitely no gods&#8221;. A strong atheist couldn&#8217;t actually search everywhere inside and outside the universe to eliminate the possibility of all possible kinds of gods. So almost all atheists are, in practice weak atheists. An atheist may say, &#8220;There is no God&#8221;, but they will be talking about a specific kind of God and most will also tell you that they&#8217;d be willing to change their beliefs if given <a href="http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/theistguide.html">appropriate evidence</a>.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re a <em>igtheistic agnostic weak atheist ignostic</em>, what should you write in the tiny box on survey forms? To those who ask you, what response should you give without sounding like a geeky bookworm?</p>
<p>I think it depends on your situation and what you&#8217;re trying to achieve.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re talking to a group of bigoted fundamentalists who see atheists as the worst kind of sinners and a scourge to society you may wish to say &#8220;agnostic&#8221; for a quiet life, or dodge the question entirely. On the other hand, if these people already know you as a decent, moral person, then admitting your are an atheist might force them to reconsider their prejudices. Obviously it depends on how deeply those opinions are ingrained and how well they know you. Certainly prejudices have never been reduced by separating people with different views or lifestyles.</p>
<p>Going for a term like &#8220;Ignostic&#8221; that  most people are unfamiliar with carries less baggage and potential for prejudice. It might also require an explanation allowing your to discuss your beliefs in more detail.</p>
<p>Personally, I tend to answer <em>&#8220;humanist&#8221;</em>. I know <a href="http://humaniststudies.org/humphil.html">humanism</a> has more to do with lifestyle than belief or disbelief in any deity, but I like that it is a simple and practical answer that tells you more about me than my scepticism about deities.</p>
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